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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=29&#038;cpage=8#comment-19160</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unassimilated,
Thank you for responding to my comments...........  
Our main issue is the submission.  OR LACK OF SUBMISSION.... I have been asked do I believe that I should submit to what he asks of me even when I don&#039;t agree or don&#039;t want to do it.  WILL I STILL DO AS IM TOLD&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unassimilated,<br />
Thank you for responding to my comments&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Our main issue is the submission.  OR LACK OF SUBMISSION&#8230;. I have been asked do I believe that I should submit to what he asks of me even when I don&#8217;t agree or don&#8217;t want to do it.  WILL I STILL DO AS IM TOLD&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Unassimilated</title>
		<link>http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=29&#038;cpage=8#comment-19153</link>
		<dc:creator>Unassimilated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annette - 

I am going to put my former SGM leaders cap back on for you.

Just going to assume that you are a committed member of SGM?

Have you done a three trees?  

What heart issues have you identified in this?

What specific examples has your Fiancée give you?

What truths/righteousness are you reluctant to put on?

What lies might you be believing in light of the scriptures that were shared with you?

Ok hat off -

What is the issue?  Does it relate to membership?  

Is it one of a difference in beliefs, or is a difference in preference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annette &#8211; </p>
<p>I am going to put my former SGM leaders cap back on for you.</p>
<p>Just going to assume that you are a committed member of SGM?</p>
<p>Have you done a three trees?  </p>
<p>What heart issues have you identified in this?</p>
<p>What specific examples has your Fiancée give you?</p>
<p>What truths/righteousness are you reluctant to put on?</p>
<p>What lies might you be believing in light of the scriptures that were shared with you?</p>
<p>Ok hat off -</p>
<p>What is the issue?  Does it relate to membership?  </p>
<p>Is it one of a difference in beliefs, or is a difference in preference?</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=29&#038;cpage=8#comment-19146</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in another state.  We met through church but I&#039;m not a member of Sovereign Grace.  Its very important to him that I am in total agreement with their theology though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in another state.  We met through church but I&#8217;m not a member of Sovereign Grace.  Its very important to him that I am in total agreement with their theology though</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=29&#038;cpage=8#comment-19145</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My fiance&#039; is a very committed member of SG.  We have done all of our premarital counsel with his Pastor and wife whom I dearly love.  I have seen  a marked difference in the marriages in this church family.  I do feel as though I don&#039;t measure up because of my lack of submission and I get angry at times feeling like I&#039;m being told what to do... but I assumed it was my rebellion.  Which it very well could be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fiance&#8217; is a very committed member of SG.  We have done all of our premarital counsel with his Pastor and wife whom I dearly love.  I have seen  a marked difference in the marriages in this church family.  I do feel as though I don&#8217;t measure up because of my lack of submission and I get angry at times feeling like I&#8217;m being told what to do&#8230; but I assumed it was my rebellion.  Which it very well could be</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so looking for the truth and answers now before I marry.  This has me very upset and now asking questions that I feel convicted for even having in my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so looking for the truth and answers now before I marry.  This has me very upset and now asking questions that I feel convicted for even having in my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Unassimilated</title>
		<link>http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=29&#038;cpage=8#comment-19141</link>
		<dc:creator>Unassimilated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annette,

Hi. 

 Does your fiancée belong to the SG church, or is he simply attending?

I ask because you did not say we attend an SG church, Just curious as in my

experience, both of you not belonging may become and issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annette,</p>
<p>Hi. </p>
<p> Does your fiancée belong to the SG church, or is he simply attending?</p>
<p>I ask because you did not say we attend an SG church, Just curious as in my</p>
<p>experience, both of you not belonging may become and issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=29&#038;cpage=8#comment-19140</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Annette -

Thanks for your comment, and welcome to the site.

First of all, I&#039;d suggest that you post another comment to the most recent post, which you can find &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=731&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  That way, more people are likely to see your comment and respond to you.

Secondly...as to the &quot;truth&quot; about SGM...well, that truly depends upon who you ask.  If you talk to other &quot;satisfied SGM customers,&quot; you&#039;ll hear a completely different take on things than if you hang around here.  

It&#039;s my belief - and I emphasize, MY belief - that what you see on the surface with SGM, and what is taught in their official literature, is different, sometimes very different, than what takes place in reality, especially behind the closed doors of a pastoral counseling session.

But...since your fiance seems to be OK with marrying a non-SGM gal, then he may be a lot more open-minded than some.  Have you had discussions about how he perceives his &quot;commitment&quot; to SGM?  Does he expect you to make SGM your home church after marriage?  

As a Christian outsider, I find SGMers&#039; talking of their &quot;commitment to SGM&quot; just one of those disturbing little things, as it seems like for some of them, at least, it is of equal importance (or even greater importance, for all practical purposes) to their commitment to Christ.  Their commitment to SGM sometimes seems to &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;define&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; their commitment to Christ...which is something I&#039;d argue is NOT Biblical.

Take your time and read here.  Ask questions.  See what you think.  There are more than 17,000 comments that have been left over the course of 18 months, with lots of info from lots of people who have had firsthand experience with SGM life.  Feel free to read and learn, and feel free to ask anything.

I&#039;d also encourage you to do the same with your SGM fiance and any other SGM members you know.  Read and learn and ask questions of them.  See how their responses make you feel.

Blessings!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Annette -</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment, and welcome to the site.</p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;d suggest that you post another comment to the most recent post, which you can find <a href="http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=731" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  That way, more people are likely to see your comment and respond to you.</p>
<p>Secondly&#8230;as to the &#8220;truth&#8221; about SGM&#8230;well, that truly depends upon who you ask.  If you talk to other &#8220;satisfied SGM customers,&#8221; you&#8217;ll hear a completely different take on things than if you hang around here.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s my belief &#8211; and I emphasize, MY belief &#8211; that what you see on the surface with SGM, and what is taught in their official literature, is different, sometimes very different, than what takes place in reality, especially behind the closed doors of a pastoral counseling session.</p>
<p>But&#8230;since your fiance seems to be OK with marrying a non-SGM gal, then he may be a lot more open-minded than some.  Have you had discussions about how he perceives his &#8220;commitment&#8221; to SGM?  Does he expect you to make SGM your home church after marriage?  </p>
<p>As a Christian outsider, I find SGMers&#8217; talking of their &#8220;commitment to SGM&#8221; just one of those disturbing little things, as it seems like for some of them, at least, it is of equal importance (or even greater importance, for all practical purposes) to their commitment to Christ.  Their commitment to SGM sometimes seems to <i><b>define</b></i> their commitment to Christ&#8230;which is something I&#8217;d argue is NOT Biblical.</p>
<p>Take your time and read here.  Ask questions.  See what you think.  There are more than 17,000 comments that have been left over the course of 18 months, with lots of info from lots of people who have had firsthand experience with SGM life.  Feel free to read and learn, and feel free to ask anything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also encourage you to do the same with your SGM fiance and any other SGM members you know.  Read and learn and ask questions of them.  See how their responses make you feel.</p>
<p>Blessings!  <img src='http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=29&#038;cpage=8#comment-19138</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m engaged to a man who attends a SG church.  I stumbled upon this site and I&#039;m now concerned.  I have had an issue with submission but felt its my sin.  Is there a place that truly spells out the truth about SGM.  I had no idea that CJ was a former catholic?  Confused................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m engaged to a man who attends a SG church.  I stumbled upon this site and I&#8217;m now concerned.  I have had an issue with submission but felt its my sin.  Is there a place that truly spells out the truth about SGM.  I had no idea that CJ was a former catholic?  Confused&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Seitler</title>
		<link>http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=29&#038;cpage=8#comment-1857</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Seitler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HighChurch,

Thanks. I forgot the trackbacks would appear here! I just linked to this post to provide some more context for some of my statements. :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HighChurch,</p>
<p>Thanks. I forgot the trackbacks would appear here! I just linked to this post to provide some more context for some of my statements. <img src='http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HighChurch</title>
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		<dc:creator>HighChurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travis-

I just read your blog. DUDE!!! You were getting some vicious attacks. My word. I thought you answered your critics well when you told them that since the pastors will not be forthright and say exactly why you left you feel the need to get the whole story out. And, if putting your story on the internet is somehow a sin....were you not forced to do so? I hate the mentality of being a Christian= being a big old wimp with no spine. That is not true.

I don&#039;t agree with not tithing, but it sounds like you had some legitimate concerns about the way the money was being used. Why were they so afraid of giving an account? It seems like they should be most forthcoming about that.

Good luck to you and your family. Err...good luck probably isn&#039;t very Christian. Blessings....that is more like it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis-</p>
<p>I just read your blog. DUDE!!! You were getting some vicious attacks. My word. I thought you answered your critics well when you told them that since the pastors will not be forthright and say exactly why you left you feel the need to get the whole story out. And, if putting your story on the internet is somehow a sin&#8230;.were you not forced to do so? I hate the mentality of being a Christian= being a big old wimp with no spine. That is not true.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with not tithing, but it sounds like you had some legitimate concerns about the way the money was being used. Why were they so afraid of giving an account? It seems like they should be most forthcoming about that.</p>
<p>Good luck to you and your family. Err&#8230;good luck probably isn&#8217;t very Christian. Blessings&#8230;.that is more like it!</p>
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